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> > DAVID: [i]I follow simple logic. God created evolution and history tells us how He did it, not the why of His choice of method. Total logic to me. It is ridiculous to claim my theism is wrong just because I don't question God's choice of method.[/i]
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> > dhw: I am not questioning your theism but your theory of evolution! History does not tell us the why of your God's creation of evolution. It is you who insist that the only “why” is to create humans plus food. And if you insist that his method of achieving his one and only goal was to perform countless acts of creation that had no connection with his one and only goal, it is patently absurd to claim that your theory is totally logical.
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> You completely ignore God creates history or doesn't He? We are left to interpret the facts. Adler and I believe we are the result against all natural odds. Adler uses the theory to obtain His proof of God. You are questioning one of the great philosophers of the 20th century.
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> > [b]Hummingbird torpor and sea spiders[/b]
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> > dhw: [i]What do you “accept”? You are proposing a theory about your God’s actions, and it doesn’t make sense. And I am complaining about your theory, not about your God’s actions![/i]
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> > DAVID: [i]My theory is not a theory in this fact: I fully accept the history of evolution as God's doings with us as the current endpoint. Adler does exactly the same to make his argument, which is the significance of the "Difference of Man and the Difference it Makes"[/i].
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> > dhw: It is a fact that you fully believe and keep repeating your illogical theory that humans plus food were your God’s one and only goal, but that in order to achieve his one and only goal, he specially designed every life form that had no connection with his goal. According to you, it is also a fact that Adler uses humans as proof of God’s existence, and does not even touch upon the above theory. And it is a fact that when asked to explain the logic of your theory, you have no idea, and have told me to go and ask God.
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> Same tired complaints. Adler described above does not fit your distorted view of him here. Adler based his argument on God especially evolving humans.