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> > [b]PART TWO[/b]
> > 
> > dhw: You keep claiming that ID-ers and Adler support your theory that your God’s one and only purpose was to design humans plus food and yet he also designed countless life forms that had no connection with humans plus food. Then in the same breath you tell us that they do not discuss your theory! How can they all be “with” you if they don’t ever mention your theory?
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> My theory comes from their beliefs!!! 
> > 
> > dhw: You jump from the beginning – bacteria – to humans, as if every single life form in between was “[b]part of the goal of evolving humans[/b]” plus food, although the vast majority of them throughout 3.X billion years [b]had no connection with humans[/b]!
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> So in your view we cannot trace how humans developed from bacteria  and evolution is discontinuous?
> > 
> > [b]Importance of ecosystems[/b]
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> > dhw: […] [i]The concept of a God who created life and then allowed it to pursue its own course is known as Deism. I’m surprised you’ve never heard of it.[/i]
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]I reject Deism fully. Where does that possibility appear here?[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: You claimed that the imagined God I present was “[i]unlike one ever described[/i]”. This imagined God (all versions are imagined, since no one can “know” if he actually exists) is one who created life and then allowed life to pursue its own course (= a free-for-all). That view of God is called Deism. 
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> So you sort of believe in Deism?
> > 
> > [b]Food as well as oxygen allows a speedy change[/b]
> > 
> > dhw: Yes, ALL steps. Exactly as I have explained it. But you ignore the fact that ALL steps in evolution do not lead to humans and their food.
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> The  branches certainly lead to required food!!!
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]Evolution is one complex step followed by a more complex step in a continuum from bacteria to humans, all designed by a mind we call God. All clear to believers[/i].
> > 
> > dhw: There is not just one continuum from bacteria to humans. As usual, you ignore 3.X billion years’ worth of life forms that had no connection with humans and their food! How many “believers” believe that all the countless life forms that had no connection with humans plus food prove that God’s only purpose was to design humans plus food?  You have said yourself that not even your ID-ers or your beloved Adler even discuss such a theory!
> 
> ID'ers theories and Adler lead directly to my theory. By the way you started this site to explore agnosticism as one purpose. Where are the agnostic comments from other agnostics to support you?  All you've got is me.