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> > DAVID: [i]I'll agree with God given.[/i]
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> > dhw: [i]Good. I hope this means you now accept the concept of God-given intelligence in such life forms as bees and ants, though of course at a far lower level than our own.[/i]
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> > DAVID: [i]I haven't accepted your version.[/i]
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> > dhw: It was you who picked on the example of language learning. A human child learns language by perceiving, processing information, communicating, decision making etc. So do animals and insects. They all have the ability (= “innate primary facility”) to do this, and that ability may have been given to them by your God. So once more: please explain the difference, apart from the time it takes and the scale of the language that is learned.
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> Learning language is the only human algorithm I know. I think it is God given, just as bees learn the waggle dance.
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> > [b]Fly brain vector math[/b]
> > DAVID: [i]as the article notes, our brain does the same thing. How did this ability develop? Not by chance. It is so important to all activity by all organisms, it fits the need for design.[/i]
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> > dhw: I agree, and here too you have drawn a parallel between human and insect abilities. One might even be inclined to think that if God exists, he gave insects and animals and humans similar autonomous abilities, which of course in our case have developed far beyond the limited scale of the life forms that preceded us.
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> Our brains Also do automatic vector math: gymnastics as an example.