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> > DAVID: [i]The way life evolved won't ever be found by humans is my point. Hunter and I have made the same comments many times.[/i]
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> > [i]dhw: If you believe the way life evolved won’t ever be found by humans, you will never find it, so your belief that you have found it can only mean….but no, I’ve met you. And you are definitely human.[/i]  ;-) 
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> > DAVID: But I can hope :-)  
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> > dhw: [i]Yes, you and Dawkins both hope that your diametrically opposite interpretations of the scientific facts will prove to be right, even though you yourself actually acknowledge that we shall never know! My point is that neither of you can claim that your blind faith is based on science.[/i]
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> > DAVID: [i]I'll stick with my comment above: I think the evidence brings belief, and I am an example of an agnostic who was convinced. And there are tons of evidence.[/i]
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> > dhw: But you believe humans will never find out how life evolved. The fact that you are now a convinced theist does not mean that your belief is any more scientifically based than that of a convinced atheist. Neither of you can possibly know the truth, and so your respective interpretations of the scientific facts lead you to nothing but hope that you are right. I have absolutely no objections to you and Mr Dawkins having your respective hopes or indeed your respective blind faiths, but I do wish you would both stop kidding yourselves that your hopes and your faiths are somehow supported by science, which is supposed to operate independently of faith, hope and subjectivity!:-|
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> I understand that your bottom is completely stuck on the points of your personal  picket  fence. But I had a reasonable thought conversion from agnosticism discovering factual science about evolution and other considerations. I found evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. I went where the evidence took me. Could your brain be stuck also? :-(   As for Dawkins, he has a blind eye to the evidence in front of his nose, as presented by ID.