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> DAVID: [i]Your questioning again demonstrates you do not know or understand my point. Thanks for recognizing you used my quote in total error.[/i]
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> dhw: [i]It’s not in total error! The bee DOES the deed, so according to you it DOES use the same degree of conceptual thinking that we use, but according to you the conceptual thinking it uses is provided by God through a personal dabble or a 3.8-billion-year old computer programme for leaf-biting. I simply don’t agree that leaf-biting is on a par with philosophy, and I must confess that the intelligent bee theory seems to me almost infinitely more convincing than your own.[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]The bee can not correlate separate events. period!![/i]
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> But if the bee had not correlated the separate events, it would not have carried on biting! And so either the bee has the intelligence to link cause and effect (as all organisms have to if they are to survive), or your God had to preprogramme leaf-biting 3.8 billion years ago, or he had to step in to give one species of bee a course in leaf-biting. I find the last two options somewhat far-fetched. Furthermore, I really wonder how many people would agree with you that linking leaf-biting with early flowering requires the same degree of conceptual thinking as human philosophy. But of course you have every right to your beliefs. Period!