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> DAVID: [i]As usual we are far apart. God helps and the animals do it.[/i]
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> dhw: [i]How do you think God “helps”?[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]Programs their onboard information.[/i]
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> dhw: [i]That’s not “help”, that’s programming, as above in bold.[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]DNA contains information. much of which is God-given.[/i]
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> dhw: [i]So the ants’ invention of farming was thanks to God planting an ant farming programme in their DNA 3.8 billion years ago, alongside the programme for all future life forms and their lifestyles and strategies and natural wonders – but that is called “helping”. Or (there's always hope) do you mean God planted the information which made ants into ants, but he left them to work out their own means of survival, including farming?[/i]
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> DAVID: [i]No hope. IMHO God showed ants how to farm.[/i]
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> Which means he either programmed ant farming 3.8 billion years ago, or he dabbled – presumably because he’d weakly forgotten to include ant farming in the programme. How else could he have “shown” them?