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> > dhw: [i]I would disagree profoundly with Sydney Brenner’s suggestion that octopi were the first intelligent beings on earth, but perhaps we need to know what he meant by “intelligence”.[/i]
> > 
> > DAVID: [i]You have forgotten this entry about octopi:[/i]
> > [i]Natures wonders: the mind of the octopus (Introduction)
> > by David Turell , Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 00:47[/i]
> > 
> > Thank you. I have reread it and it is indeed fascinating. There are degrees of intelligence, and obviously the octopus comes high on the scale. That does not make him the first intelligent being. 
> > 
> > BBELLA: [i]Perhaps Brenner is saying that octopi were the first intelligent "beings" to be formed from organisms and bacteria?[/i]
> > 
> > dhw: Some scientists tell us that bacteria themselves are intelligent beings. This observation underlies my hypothesis that evolution may be driven by the (perhaps God-given) intelligence of cells/cell communities.
> 
> The Octopus intelligence article was fascinating and their antics in labs was featured in the movie "Finding Nemo". But cells which have a brilliant set of instructions in their genomes will fool outsiders into thinking they are innately intelligent.