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> DAVID: [i]Still 50/50.[/i]-dhw: [i]When the odds are 50/50, According to us clear thinkers The cowboy who &#147;knows&#148; Which way it all goes Is wearing his horse&apos;s blinkers.[/i]-DAVID: [i]My meaning of 50/50? 1) Only one side is correct 2) Both sides are correct 3) No one is correct I favor #1. I admit that #2 is a possibility. #3 is not logical. Theists will join me, and I remain with the claim that all the ID scientists are on my side.[/i]-We are talking about cells/cell communities being intelligent, as opposed to being automatons. I agree that only one side is correct. I have no idea at all why you should relate this to theism, since I have pointed out over and over again that this intelligence may have been God-given. We have, however, discussed the relevance of cellular intelligence to evolution (which you believe in, as opposed to separate creation of  species), and so I&apos;d be interested to know which ID evolutionists explicitly support your theory that God personally intervened to design every innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder from bacteria to humans, or 3.8 billion years ago supplied the first living cells with a programme for all of them. And I thought you once said that Shapiro was a practising Jew - but maybe my memory is at fault.