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> > David: intelligence is everywhere, in the intelligent information in living organisms&apos; cells to the intelligence in myriad brains of various types from C. elegans to humans. And you want it to just sort of evolve &apos;inexplicably&apos;. That means you can&apos;t explain it, but it gets rid of the problem of God. More meat please. See my Romansh/ Ed Fesser entry of today. By the way he originated as an atheist.[/i] >  > dhw: What do you mean &#147;it gets rid of the problem of God&#148;? God is not the default position. You want an inexplicable intelligence called God to just sort of be there - &#147;that means you can&apos;t explain it, but it gets rid of the problem&#148; of how life and intelligence arose.-I know He isn&apos;t the &apos;default&apos;. But He supplies the information which is everywhere in biology. You need a thinking mind the create the underlying planning information in DNA and its modifying layers. >  > David&apos;s comment [re the article we were discussing]: [i]Such clear thinking![/i] > dhw: [i]Yes indeed. It&apos;s only faith that can dispense with clear thinking.[/i] > DAVID: [i]Faith totally clears up the mystery, solves all.[/i] >  > dhw: Precisely. You can have faith in an inexplicable power called God, or you can have faith in an inexplicable evolution of intelligence in matter, and each faith &#147;totally clears up the mystery&#148;.-This comment does not clear up your acceptance of first cause, nor does it override the issue of information which must come from a planning mind.