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> > George: I quite like Bella&apos;s version of the creation myth. After all in the original version of Genesis the word for the agent of creation was Elohim which is a plural.-According to the Hebrew scholar I use, Judah Landa, "In the Beginning Of", 2004, Elohim like many Hebrew words is generally used in the singular, but is also occasionally plural in some verses. It depends on the context of the verse; just as Yam is any body of water from a puddle to an ocean, and Yom is any length of time from an instant to an eon. >  > George: But of course none of this speculation solves the problem of where whatever existed before came from in the first place. The only really satisfying conclusion to my way of thinking is that the universe came ultimately from nothing by a mixture of chance and necessity.-I just cannot follow that line of reasoning, but that it what makes you and I differ. We are here, so something necessarily caused that fact. But &apos;chance&apos; dealing with what substance to advance from nothing to something?