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> dhw: [i]Could you possibly find a clearer instance of the "intelligent cell" at work, or of the evolutionary process of cooperation as expounded by Margulis? Communication between individual cells, the formation of communities that live and work together, making use of whatever environment they find themselves in...Isn&apos;t this the key to adaptation and innovation within living organisms, thereby leading to new organs and new species? No need for random mutations, no problem with gaps in the fossil record, no problem with saltation, no problem with the Cambrian Explosion... "Intelligent cells" are the answer to all the evolutionary questions except that of their origin.[/i]-DAVID: [i]I have no argument with the intelligence in the first cells, or your obvious conclusions ,short of the comment about origin. Information and intelligence are two sides of the same coin. Those cells are imbued with information. Information comes from an intelligent mind which supplied that information. Information does not come from blind chance. Therefore??? It is difficult to escape that thought that God exists.[/i]-It depends on what you mean by information. Winds, rocks and heads are all imbued with information. So if a gust of wind dislodges a rock, which accidentally falls on my head and kills me, the authorities will examine the relevant information (e.g. speed of wind, composition and position of rock, position of dhw, composition of head etc.), and will attribute this truly tragic combination of information to blind chance rather than to the planning of an intelligent mind. It does, however, take intelligence to perceive, classify, identify and use information. If you think ALL information has to [b]come from [/b]and [b]be supplied by [/b] God, it would be very helpful if you could define exactly what you mean by "information".